Wikipedia Hamshenis

What is Hamshen? Why this forum exists?
Что такое Амшен? Для чего существует форум?
Hamshen''e inch pona? As forume inchi homar a? Vum deia?
Ի՞նչ է Համշենը: Ինչո՞ւ է ստեղծվել այս ֆորումը։

Wikipedia Hamshenis

Postby avetik » 26 Jan 2007, 01:35

If any of you has some information which could benefit the Hamshenis Wikipedia article , please contact me.

Если у кого нибудь из вас есть полезная информация про Амшен которой можно пополнить Статью про Амшенцев в Википедии, пожалуйста свяжитесь со мной.

astegh badmutine hin
xarnevadza nerin hed,
kidista miy baberun azbarininq himi menq,
azbarininq menq... (c) Hamsheni Azbar
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Postby Arshak_IV » 09 Jun 2007, 06:55

I am also searching a lot to understand my Armenian cousins , especially my grandfather and grandmother from Adapazari and both were massacred to Turks , just my father survived at age of 1. Hard to come by articles about Hemshenis, if I come a cross , I let you know.
Best Regards.
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Re: Wikipedia Hamshenis

Postby mizzLebanese » 02 Aug 2007, 18:17

So Hemshens also recognize the genocide against the Armenians? Why would Turks kill Hemshen when all of you are Muslim?
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Postby avetik » 02 Aug 2007, 18:37

mizzLebanese,

First of all, this is your first post on this forum, I think, so I would be happy to welcome you. Pari egak :)

Please take time to introduce yourself.
(We all are normal people here, not robots, let me assure you :) )

Second of all, kindly browse this forum's materials to find out what Hamshentsi's are about. You asking an interesting political question, but as you probably notice we don't have a topic called "Politics" on this forum. The reason is that political discussions are outside of our focus here. There are better boards for this.

Actually only part of us (most) is Muslim, residing primarily in Turkey, the other part is Christian residing primarily in South Russia and Abkhazia. There are many Hamshentsi's in both groups who, for whatever reason, actually not adher to any religion and are practically atheists or agnostics. They may have Armenian, Russian or Turkish names, yet they don't beleive in God and don't go to any place of worship.

Like most of my countrymen, I happen to be a Christian, member of the Armenian church. But there are others on this board who are Muslims. We don't even use same language: Bash-Hemshinli from Turkey, for example don't use Armenian dialect anymore, they speak a dialect of Turkish with a large number of words borrowed from Armenian. There are also Hopa-Hemshinli who speak a very interesting Armenian dialect of Hamshen yet don't read or write in Armenian letters, they only use modified Turkish-Latin alphabet. There are some of us here from Russia who feel more comfortable using Russian for discussions, so be it. But it is not an "all the same" deal. I hope I answered your question.

Please use this board to learn about the culture and history of Hamshen annd kindly obstain from political discussions.

Again, thanks and welcome!
Last edited by avetik on 03 Aug 2007, 00:28, edited 2 times in total.

astegh badmutine hin
xarnevadza nerin hed,
kidista miy baberun azbarininq himi menq,
azbarininq menq... (c) Hamsheni Azbar
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Postby mizzLebanese » 02 Aug 2007, 18:43

avetik wrote:mizzLebanese,

First of all, this is your first post on this forum, I think, so I would be happy to welcome you. Pari egak :)

Please take time to introduce yourself.
(We all are normal people here, not robots, let me assure you :) )

Second of all, kindly browse this forum's materials to find out what Hamshentsi's are about. You asking an interesting political question, but as you probably notice we don't have a topic called "Politics" on this forum. The reason is that political discussions are outside of our focus here. There are better boards for this. Actually only part of us (most) is Muslim, residing primarily in Turkey, the other part is Christian residing primarily in South Russia and Abkhazia. There are many Hamshentsi's in both groups who, for whatever reason, actually not adher to any religion and are practically atheists or agnostics. They may have Armenian, Russian or Turkish names, yet they don't beleive in God and don't go to any place of worship. I happen to be a Christian, member of the Armenian church. But it is not the all the same deal. I hope I answered your question.

Please use this board to learn about the culture and history of Hamshen annd kindly obstain from political discussions.

Again, thanks and welcome!


Thank you so much!

I'm really intrested in the Hemshen because most are Muslim and when I heard they were Armenian I was very suprised because usually being Armenian makes you a Christian, you know. Hope to learn more about Hemshen :)

But thanks for the information, I appreciate it :D
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Postby avetik » 02 Aug 2007, 18:50

You are very welcome. :D
Sorry I had to edit the above post you quoted to make my point more clear.

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xarnevadza nerin hed,
kidista miy baberun azbarininq himi menq,
azbarininq menq... (c) Hamsheni Azbar
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Postby mizzLebanese » 02 Aug 2007, 18:57

I will introduce myself.

My name is Leena.
I am 17 and I live in Toronto Canada.
I am half Lebanese and half Iranian but I speak Farsi/Persian.
I'm really intrested in Kafkazi and Middle Eastern history.

Anything else, ask :)
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Postby avetik » 02 Aug 2007, 18:59

Nice to meet you, Leena.
Since you're from Lebanon, do you speak Armenian also, by chance?..

astegh badmutine hin
xarnevadza nerin hed,
kidista miy baberun azbarininq himi menq,
azbarininq menq... (c) Hamsheni Azbar
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Postby mizzLebanese » 02 Aug 2007, 20:24

avetik wrote:Nice to meet you, Leena.
Since you're from Lebanon, do you speak Armenian also, by chance?..


Thank you, it is nice to meet you as well.

No I cannot speak Armenian :P but I have alot of Armenian-Lebanese friends. Very nice people and I love the language. It is very beautiful alhamdulillah <3
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Postby hagop » 03 Aug 2007, 00:00

Thank you mizzLebanese, welcome to our Forum.
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Postby el-hemşini » 03 Aug 2007, 09:42

avetik wrote:mizzLebanese,

First of all, this is your first post on this forum, I think, so I would be happy to welcome you. Pari egak :)

Please take time to introduce yourself.
(We all are normal people here, not robots, let me assure you :) )

Second of all, kindly browse this forum's materials to find out what Hamshentsi's are about. You asking an interesting political question, but as you probably notice we don't have a topic called "Politics" on this forum. The reason is that political discussions are outside of our focus here. There are better boards for this.

Actually only part of us (most) is Muslim, residing primarily in Turkey, the other part is Christian residing primarily in South Russia and Abkhazia. There are many Hamshentsi's in both groups who, for whatever reason, actually not adher to any religion and are practically atheists or agnostics. They may have Armenian, Russian or Turkish names, yet they don't beleive in God and don't go to any place of worship.

Like most of my countrymen, I happen to be a Christian, member of the Armenian church. But there are others on this board who are Muslims. We don't even use same language: Bash-Hemshinli from Turkey, for example don't use Armenian dialect anymore, they speak a dialect of Turkish with a large number of words borrowed from Armenian. There are also Hopa-Hemshinli who speak a very interesting Armenian dialect of Hamshen yet don't read or write in Armenian letters, they only use modified Turkish-Latin alphabet. There are some of us here from Russia who feel more comfortable using Russian for discussions, so be it. But it is not an "all the same" deal. I hope I answered your question.

Please use this board to learn about the culture and history of Hamshen annd kindly obstain from political discussions.

Again, thanks and welcome!


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Yaa bu BAŞHEMŞİNLİ terimini kim icad etti? BaşHemşin bir köyün adıdır. Hemşin'de hiç kimse ben Başhemşinliyim demez, Başhemşin Köyünde yaşayanlardan gayri. Delinin birisi zamanında kuyuya bir taş atmış, şimdi çıkart çıkartabilirsen. :mrgreen:
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Postby hagop » 03 Aug 2007, 17:32

Bir de Bas Hemsin insanin kulaklarina asil Hemsin, tarihi Hemsin diye geliyor. Herhalde bunun da payi vardir.
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Postby el-hemşini » 03 Aug 2007, 17:40

hagop wrote:Bir de Bas Hemsin insanin kulaklarina asil Hemsin, tarihi Hemsin diye geliyor. Herhalde bunun da payi vardir.


YUKARI HEMŞİN manasında kullanılmış bence.
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Postby hagop » 03 Aug 2007, 22:05

Dogrusun, yukari Hemsin de demeye getiriyorlar.
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