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Posted:
04 Aug 2007, 17:11
by hagop
Not: Yukardaki konu KULTUR kismina tasinmistir.
UWE BLASING'in topladigi Hemsince hayvan isimleri
Posted:
04 Aug 2007, 17:22
by hagop
(The Hemshin: History, society and identity in the Highlands of Northeast Turkey kitabindan)
cucik -- bizde cut/cutik=tavuk yavrusu, civciv
aklecut -- bizde akloracut (aklor=horoz) genc horoz
koşat -- bizde diyalektlerde koşot=genc koc
Posted:
04 Aug 2007, 18:14
by Garmicur
Posted:
06 Aug 2007, 12:27
by el-hemşini
Posted:
06 Aug 2007, 17:30
by hagop
muçki
Posted:
09 Aug 2007, 16:48
by princemishkin
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13 Aug 2007, 07:49
by hagop
Posted:
14 Aug 2007, 16:35
by Hayrik
Re:
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14 Sep 2008, 00:20
by freeblacksea
Re:
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22 Jan 2009, 19:54
by Hayrik
Re: Hayvanlar ----- Animals of Hamshen
Posted:
26 Jan 2009, 04:46
by hagop
Hayrik,
I heard that the word "lipart" is from Laz. Maybe the personal name Liparit comes from that, I don't know. I believe it was the linguist Ajarian who wrote that that name came from Georgian into Armenian about a thousand years ago. When the meaning of Liparit is discovered, we may be able to see if they are related.
Re: Hayvanlar ----- Animals of Hamshen
Posted:
27 Jan 2009, 06:52
by avetik
We had some people in our village with first name Libar. Do you think there is any connection?
Re: Hayvanlar ----- Animals of Hamshen
Posted:
27 Jan 2009, 12:41
by Hayrik
"Libar" should be the minifying of "Libarid".
I think, while our ancestors used names like gayl (wolf), arriutz (lion), artziv (eagle), may be used as a surname, libart too, a metonymy to this predator animal.
We know the relation between laz and georgian languages. Ajarian says we took this name from georgians, as well as laz use this as name for jackal.
May be "jackal" (libard), didn't sound bad in this era among these people as it sounds bad in Turkish language (çakal).
Re: Hayvanlar ----- Animals of Hamshen
Posted:
28 Jan 2009, 03:31
by avetik
In Russian to call somebody a "jackal" (шакал) is a major offense.
Probably same for Armenian environment, so I tend to think that personal name Libar probably originates from some other root...
By the way, we call jackal -- ղըյապ (ghiyap), if I remember correctly.
Artsiv -- yes, we have a few people with that name in our village.
Re: Hayvanlar ----- Animals of Hamshen
Posted:
30 Jan 2009, 08:00
by hagop
I believe the Hopa Hemshinli also use khiyap for jackal.