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Humor :: Temelin Keluxe :: Голова Темела

Humor :: Temelin Keluxe :: Голова Темела

Postby avetik » 01 Feb 2007, 20:29

Известный хемшильский анекдот про Темела
(типа русского Иванушки-дурачка).

Temelin Keluxe
(Голова Темела)


Yiyek hadik enger tsaxutn ive kayiğ enush gerton.
Три друга на гору лодку делать пошли.

Tsaxutin keloxn ive kellin kayiğe genin.
На вершину горы забрались лодку сделали.

Šad barak gelli; hemi inçecnuš kuzin.
Круто очень было; захотели спуститься.

Andi inçecnele erguse uuš jompacove jompan išnoghun
Потом чтобы спуститься двое другой дорогой спускаются

meg al na satarin kelxan jompan inçecnoğum gasa.
а один "я по дороге с крутой стороны спущусь" говорит.

Dağin onune Temel gelli.
Парня Темелом звали.

Temele çvone jedin gaba gu, ‘yes hemi asdi inçecenim’ gasa.
Темел верёвку на шею завязал, "я сейчас отсюда спущу" говорит.

Andi engerdake jompan kiçnun put genin martun vuсude go keloxe çgo.
Потом друзья на дорогу выходят глядят у мужика тело есть а головы нет.

‘Yahu,’ gasin, ‘asu keloxe gar ta çgar ta?
"Эй," говорят, "а была голова-то или нет?"

Inç enik inç enik oç?’
"Что делать-не делать?"

Yuuc put genin ‘yahu,’ gasin, ‘meg erta gasa genoçe harc enik balki genige kidena gu.’
Друг на друга посмотрели "эй" говорят, "может пойдем спросим у жены, может жена знает."

Genoçe mode gerton, ‘yahu,’ gasin, ‘ku martun keloxe vaan er ta vaan çer ta?’
К жене приходят, "эй", говорят, "у твоего мужика голова была или нет?"

Genign a gasa, ‘as akvan a,’ gasa, ‘kahvalti hazrlamiš i,’ gasa, ‘bat marte giav ta giav oç ta çkidim,’ gasa.
Жена говорит, "сегодня утром," говорит, "завтрак приготовил он, " говорит, "а поел или не поел -- не знаю," говорит.

:)
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Postby ERGINK » 20 Apr 2007, 18:03

iSA VİR TU KİRATZİN ANUNE İNMAN ÇE
SHİDAQE < MER HOZZA ARDELETSİ KAHĞ GO AN KAHĞ'AN MERK MARTMENA>

TEMELİN KELOXE ÇE, ARDELETSİYİN KELOXE, ELLUŞE BİDİR.
AhğçiK, (axçik) DaGha Meg ElliK
Meg MeziGi Dir ElliK
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LaV AbriK u LaV ElliK /
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Postby avetik » 20 Apr 2007, 19:51

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Postby ERGINK » 21 Apr 2007, 13:13

ŞİDAKES, ŞAKA ENUŞED KİDEM AVETİK
ES A ŞAKA GENİM.
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Meg MeziGi Dir ElliK
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Postby avetik » 21 Apr 2007, 23:25

Ergink can tunal ustetsi es?..
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Postby ERGINK » 22 Apr 2007, 14:29

Avetik can yes HOPA U Xigo u qaghanem
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Postby avetik » 22 Apr 2007, 16:52

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Postby ERGINK » 23 Apr 2007, 13:06

Avetik can

Hozzayi hamshetsike meg lizu xosigun
Shad kiç uruhs xosigun, (ardeletsik geytan xosigun, ğhigoetsik gertan .xosikuk, shade isban urush xosush go al urush xosh çko.)
Al urush hamshen lizu çko, imman kiçme urush xosush go axadik.
çen urush hamshen kahğ go, lizu meg xosikuk.

Makriyale bicik dziyapa (küçük Çarşi) makriyaltsi kahğiye
Köprici , shana , çançağhan, Üçkardeş (avalu anune çkidem) Sarp (avalu anune çikidem , ğhalbashi, osmaniye, karaosmaniye, (isots avalu anune çkidem) ğheluqed, ali kani madikal gon anunniye mides çen.

Hopa Meçxedağ dziyapa, (ortalama çarşi) meçhe laz' a gon irar (mek hoza irar'is dağhe , yarats hed gasik, xosikuk) hed xendakuk

kahğhoron anunniye ; ğhigoetsi, ardeletsi, çavushnetsi, zurpicetsi, garci,zalunetsi. dzarğinetsi, zenditti, ohğt, ut hadikal laz (megrel) kahğ go

Borçka , hopayis bes dziyapa ergus, yiyek adik hamshen kağh go megale laz u gürci kahğherin, Çğhalaetsi borçka yi dziyapane kağhne.

isa kirats kağhiyes hamshen lizu xosikuk. megmal Türkçen.


Enutsman (yaratsman) engerutinal genik aghchik-degha gudok garnuk

Avetik can tun mer hozayi ardeletsinoron bes xosisku kidesta, shidak anots bes xosisku

ardeletsik , ayde gasin meg arde gasik aman xosikuk, tun ardeletsi lemanisku, aman çe ta ?
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Postby ERGINK » 23 Apr 2007, 13:15

Avetik ağpars can.
moliyatse , Ardeşen , pazar, rize,çayeli fındıklı, isa dziyapnorosta
hamshen gon çen hamshen lizun molyatsin çen hamshen ellushniye kiden
Aser (tulum)(gayda) diq peçhigun vartivor genin lerine dasnihink or
çen hamshen xosushe moliyatsin, mek hamshen xosishe xosikuk çen diq peshuhse çkidik, himi himi sorvikuk, meg duduk peçikuk hoyivi dudug peçikuk
Al inç asim , tun qezi soy putara
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Postby avetik » 23 Apr 2007, 18:37

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Postby hagop » 24 Apr 2007, 00:04

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Postby ERGINK » 24 Apr 2007, 18:49

Avetik can.
Meg hoza DZİYAP'e sharan gasik (kent) Tuk shar, qaghak gasek ta kidem, çe ta ?

Share Türkçe çe ta ? (Türkçe = Şehir) Mezi ispan xosush shad ge, çen yes an xoshuhsnere Türkçe a Kidem u

eee, (Qagh = Köy) bes u bes shaaaaad ge himi mides qachi

shidak ardeletses bes xosisku, yes qezi isti tus ardeletsi asoxum
qellita ?

yes tuk hasginushnorod hamar tsezi bes kiradzi tadigem. gayimta ?

çe çe ardelets,qal ğhigostikal kaghetsiek, lizu lehhceniye urush uruhs gelli.

yahu ardeletsi shaka (şaka),Türkçe) genim astatsunes isa xosuhstsa Türkçe a , çe ta ?

hoda chedem çen hoza metnagu, bar igun

Himi hagop'oves xosim(Şimdi hagop ile konuşayım)
barev hagop can. (Merhaba)
Aver hasginami çen meg dzenatz Govoron hamar gasik (yalniş anlama ama biz Dzenadz ineklerin doğumuna deriz.)
Martotse homar, genige daga unnats gasik (adamlar için (insanlar yanı) kadin çocuk doğurdu diye deriz.

hogop enger seni anladım, istanbulda doğmuşsun ve orda buyumuşsun

(hogop, xenda mi kiratzunes isa mezi abrisosh xosush gelli (xenda mi bizde yaşamayasın demek anlamı taşır.) sizde farklimi anlam taşır.?

Yesal xapetsi gasik çen hozzo ispan kirekuk, ğhapetsi Tuk xağetsi gasek, lehçe urush gelli. meg es asehsik( bizde yalan deriz ama burda böyle yazıyoruz, ğhapetsi siz xapetsi diyorsunuz. lehçeler farkı var. Biz es demeyiz.

al inç asem , bar igun (daha ne diyeyim iyi akşamlar.)
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Postby hagop » 25 Apr 2007, 02:27

Barev Ergink aghpars,

Yes al kidim ta tuk "dzenushe" goverun (h)oma(r) gasik. Hopatsi Hamshetsik indzi asel (e)in. Aner/anor (h)oma(r) "xenda mi" as(t)etsi ama shidag chaghav. Me(n)k ta martotse ta hayvanneru (h)oma(r) "dzenav" gasi(n)k.

Me(n)k "dzidzghush"i (h)oma(r) "xendal" gasi(n)k ama bazi bazi "dzidzghel" gasi(n)k. Baravnere "beddua"i (anetsq/onits?) hamar al gasin (yani "soy, lav or desnas och"). "Didzagha mi" asushes er bidi, ozur dilerim.

Himi kezi hamar Turk u megalnerun hamar al Ingiliz-nerun lizunerov krigum. Ergink aghpars, dialect/lehce farkliliklarina bakarken diger bir onemli husus lehcelerin lehcelerle nasil karsilastirilmasi. Biz burada Hopa Hemsincesini, onceleri yanliz okulda ogretilen standard Bati Ermenicesi, sonra da standard Dogu Ermenicesi'nin kismen etkiledigi Carsamba'dan Trabzon'a varan aralarinda kucuk farkliliklar olan lehcelerle karsilastiriyoruz. Karsilastirmak tabii ki yanlis degil ama, o Hemsinli kardeslerimiz ve ben bazen bugunku standard (dogu veya bati) dialectlerinden karsiliklar veriyoruz. Halbuki, daha iki nesil once lehceler daha onemliydi. "Hima" yerine "himi", "kyugh" yerine "kegh" diyorduk (buradan da Turkce'ye "köy" diye girdi). Keza senin kullandigin "chene". Bunlari ileride daha da acalim.

(Ergink aghpar, one important think to keep in mind in dialect comparison is what we are comparing to what. The Hamshentsi here and I are aften providing you word equivalents that are in standard forms which clearly influenced the closely related Hamshen dialects from Charsamba to Trabzon. However, only two generations ago the dialects were more important and we used to say "himi" instead of "hima", "kegh" instead of "kyugh" (which enter into Turkish as "köy"). Let's explore these further.)

Hamov xosiguk.
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Postby leyla » 25 Apr 2007, 07:24

hagop,shidagis,tunk shad hamov xosek ku. yesel hamov gashtom gu (okuyorum) dzer kradzner . :)
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Postby hagop » 25 Apr 2007, 12:36

Mersi Leyla kurik im. Menak yes chkrem, urishnern al togh kren vor aveli hamov ella (elli). Vstah em (eminim) or as forumi Hopa Hamhsetik guzen gartal tser Abkhazya-yi, Sochi-yi kyugheru u gyankin (hayat) masin (hakkinda).
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